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Comments on ‘Election Results’
Mohammad at June 17, 2005 10:50 PM:
This is absurd! I hope the election is not rigged. If it is not, I expect these numbers to change drastically.
one-liner at June 18, 2005 01:52 AM:
$60 per month. civil disobedience.
Arash Jalali at June 18, 2005 02:09 AM:
There are not the only "official" results. Apparently we have as many official results as we have candidates. This election smells more than usual: Look here: http://www.isna.ir/Main/NewsView.aspx?ID=News-542665 And then the council of guardians seems to be doing its best to get Jannati's son-in-law an extra push. At 8AM this morning, on one of the radio channels, Elham, the CG's spokesperson announced that Ahmadinejad is now 2nd after Rafsanjani. Karubi has promised to hold a press conference in this afternoon (local time).
Kaveh at June 18, 2005 08:37 AM:
Basically no matter the result the quality of life for more than 70% of Iranian population will remain the same. This is a sad consequence of the fact that for many Iranians human rights, civil liberties, religious reformation is only secondary or just unimportant. Reform is a luxury that many don't even think of.
itchy_thoughts at June 18, 2005 10:41 AM:
I am suprised that my previous comment for a previous post is removed. Anyway, I give it another try in the hope that there was an unintentional mistake involved and you guys perhaps mistook my name for a porn site spam;) In a previous post, you had said: "Given the audience of this web site, I think only, if any, the choices of Moeen, Rafsanjani and I don't vote can be of some meaning for the actual election." And I'd said since when the audience of an English-speaking blog represented the population of the country. I basically had said that Moin had little chance. If you really thought that Moin would be in the top three, that just shows how drifted you are from the Iranian society. Actually I am suprised to see how Qalibaf is trailing behind. I expected Qalibaf and Ahmadinejad to be ahead of Moin, and... [more at the permalink of the entry above]
An Iranian Student (AIS) at June 18, 2005 12:00 PM:
I just hope you are satisfied by this, all of those who voted! This mess is what you brought by doing all you could to destroy a loud call for total boycott and inciting people to vote for the system. Happy now? Nice job! I'm sure your mothers must be proud. Ever present pathetic useful fools. SHAME!
Yaser K at June 18, 2005 12:18 PM:
Loud call for boycott! In what planet do you live AIS?
itchy_thoughts at June 18, 2005 01:06 PM:
"I just hope you are satisfied by this, all of those who voted!" Rafsanjani and Ahmadi Nejad would have made it to the second round if every body boycotted the vote anyway. This mess is brought to us by those who didn't vote! What would have boycott achieved for us? Depriving the regime from the "legitimacy" that it needed? Who cares what the world thinks about the Islamic republic. The world would have still traded with an "illegitimate" regime anyway. They take the Islamic Republic as the defacto government of Iran anyway. Would the world have brought Iran to isolation? Cuba is living in isloation just at the tip of America's nose and it is surviving. N. Korea is surviving. Do you think an oil-rich country with a rising superpower like China at its door to purchase its oil will have touble surviving? You guys who beat the drum... [more at the permalink of the entry above]
An Iranian Student (AIS) at June 18, 2005 04:34 PM:
Th eissue is not that the two would have gone to the second round or not. You still don't get it, do you? This election was a sham from the beginning. IF the opposition was not so dumb as to fall for the first chance they got and had boycotted the election, then THE LEGITIMACY of this election and the system that had staged it would have been undermined, no matter how many would have voted, which I could have been much much fewer than this if people had seen a unified front of meaningful boycott and firm stance on the principles, the same way that this SAME people voted in such numbers 8 years ago for that clown, because then too there was a unified front and a new meaningful position rekative to its time. When you continue in something that has been proven futile,this is what happens.... [more at the permalink of the entry above]
An Iranian Student (AIS) at June 18, 2005 04:51 PM:
and one more thing. "loud call for boycott"? Open your damn eyes and read what I had written the night before this election. Of course there was going to be nop boycott after the show you and your ilk had been staging in this last month! What the heck did you expect? It's only the likes of you who thin they are going to get the whole country one day and the next day consider Iranians as a bunch of unworthy lowlives who do not deserved great minds like you. Others see the situation for what it is. What? you hadn't read it? Here read it now: comment Maybe last time you were busy hiring the bus, or maybe you were all gathered to "smell" 2nd Khordad and turned off your head.
itchy_thoughts at June 18, 2005 07:46 PM:
"You still don't get it, do you?" It seems you don't get it while ducking a simple question. What happens when the Islamic Republic loses its legitimacy? I'd say nothing of significance because of the reasons I mentioned in my previous comment.
AIS at June 18, 2005 09:01 PM:
ah, this one has already been discussed in full. You are late. and I'm not in the mood to discuss obvious facts with you or the like.
somebody at June 24, 2005 08:32 AM:
I think regardless of who becomes Iran's president for next four years, FToI should open a comment column after the election (like what BBC Persian does) in which we can argue about the lessons of this election! One lesson I find learnable is by going to Iranian websites (such as http://www.iran-emrooz.net/ ) one can easily figure out how politically mature or naive these folks (who want to save our country) are. In other words, this election has provided some sort of a criteria to measure up "intellectuals" with.
NPR at June 24, 2005 09:05 AM:
Listen!
SG at June 24, 2005 09:12 AM:
Based on what Ebrahim Nabavi suggests (and although I overlooked that possibility, knowing irresponsible Iranians who don't mind making an experiment of Iran's fate and then if the outcome is not what they expected they would simply shrug their shoulders and go their way I find perfectly plausible) some Iranians vote AhmadiNejad to "expedite the fall of the regime". Such elephantine stupidity!
BBC Persian at June 24, 2005 11:40 AM:
Listen to your people!
SG at June 24, 2005 04:03 PM:
I guess a Bush-Kerry sort of contest is going on here. (Click on SG!)
SG at June 24, 2005 04:30 PM:
One lesson of this election (and there are many to be learned), in my opinion, is when it comes to democracy, we need *hard facts*, not just speculation and what Behrooz in a comment under another piece called "intellectualization". Otherwise we get overly excited in our "turquoise tower" of bloggy analyses and develop fantasies about a "turquiose revolution" or whatnot. First step is to send some Iranian students abroad to learn some statistics lessons from sociologists.